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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    Taking a year off simply should not be an option unfortunately. The estate needs to complete the terms of their contract and they're running out of time.

    The only projects that are confirmed parts of the Sony contract are the Michael and Xscape albums, the Vision and Bad 25 box sets, and the Immortal soundtrack. Some articles also include the This Is It soundtrack, though that's doubtful. On top of that, the Michael Jackson: The Experience video game and anything done with Cirque du Soleil were done through separate agreements.

    All in all that equals to five (or six) of the ten projects the estate legally has to fulfill, with only two-and-a-half years left in their contract.
    *Prepares for overload of sub-par releases............
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jackson
    How you gonna talk about the birds and the bees, when you met your own wife when she was only fourteen? Then you made one daughter; she (ah!) came to me. I took her to my Neverland Ranch to Hee-Hee!

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    It's presumably either that, or the Estate is trying to take after Michael in not bothering to fulfil projects that they're contracted to do by a certain date, lol.

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    The 10 projects thing is just a limit, a maximum and doesn't really mean there has to be 10 releases. Most contracts probably don't end with all terms fulfilled and contracts are usually terminated by mutual consent - MJ had quite a few of these, most notably the 1991 deal that ended in 2002 without having the stated number of albums/films released.

    I reckon Sony will be looking to move on in 2017 as the releases have not lived up to what was originally expected in 2010. Apart from TII film, none have been smashes and more like average performing products or just below average. They've lost money.
    "Because we do not know when we will die, we get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more times will you remember a certain afternoon of your childhood, some afternoon that is so deeply a part of your being that you can't even concieve of your life without it? Perhaps four or five times more. Perhaps not even that. How many times will you watch the full moon rise? Perhaps twenty. And yet it all seems limitless." - Brandon Lee

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    The entire Sony idea was completely ridiculous. That $250 million dollars should have been for permanent rights, or maybe twenty to thirty years. Seven years was ridiculous.

    What no one seemed to take into account was that every significant artist sees a period of exhaustion after their death. Tupac has suffered. Jimi Hendrix. John Lennon. Elvis. Odds are we won't see a monumentally well performing Michael Jackson related project for some decades.

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    What most MJ fans usually fail to take into account is most posthumous releases of any kind are from famous faces who died quite some time ago - Elvis, Lennon, Bruce Lee, Einstein, etc. Before the age of the internet and wider accessibility. Those releases are well after their time for the most part and that's reflected in their sales. But MJ is still hugely close to his own time by conparision yet has a more significant drop. I wouldn't bother with Tupac or Biggie - USA concentrated virtually. Compare global to global figures only.

    What put MJ at no.1 deceased celebrity wasn't even his own material. It was largely thanks to Immortal tour. Remember, he didn't die decades ago. Elvis did which is why it's no surprise most of his posthumous earnings are non-Elvis projects. Exactly the same for Bruce Lee Estate whose success is more impressive than any other Estate probably in light of his early death and the fact he was a martial artist yet his Estate doesn't own his most popular work, Enter The Dragon. They make less money yet are going after very grand goals such as BLAM.

    Sony can't really be blamed for expecting better posthumous sales for the next 7 years after Michael's death. It's still his time, but it looks too like a lot of people moved on pretty quickly after he passed. I'd expect these figures years away from this time period.
    "Because we do not know when we will die, we get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more times will you remember a certain afternoon of your childhood, some afternoon that is so deeply a part of your being that you can't even concieve of your life without it? Perhaps four or five times more. Perhaps not even that. How many times will you watch the full moon rise? Perhaps twenty. And yet it all seems limitless." - Brandon Lee

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    MJ releases/projects aren't really exciting 'events' any more when (a) they come about so often and (b) they're cheesy, lowest-common-denominator 'trendy' remix projects, naff dance games, circus tours, TV appearances of crap holograms etc.

    But maybe the biggest factor is that most people already exhausted their MJ re-appreciation during that late '09/early '10 period when sales of his back-catalogue were going crazy... Sony/the Estate misinterpreted that as a sign of strong hard demand for new material, when most people were really just remembering how much they loved that OTW/Thriller singer before he became 'a weird white woman'.

    Harsh to say it like that, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenMcNuggets View Post
    MJ releases/projects aren't really exciting 'events' any more when (a) they come about so often and (b) they're cheesy, lowest-common-denominator 'trendy' remix projects, naff dance games, circus tours, TV appearances of crap holograms etc.

    But maybe the biggest factor is that most people already exhausted their MJ re-appreciation during that late '09/early '10 period when sales of his back-catalogue were going crazy... Sony/the Estate misinterpreted that as a sign of strong hard demand for new material, when most people were really just remembering how much they loved that OTW/Thriller singer before he became 'a weird white woman'.

    Harsh to say it like that, I know.
    Similar case happened when Marvin died. Everyone goes back to the albums they loved so much, Motown saw it as an opportunity to release a lot of product, which they eventually gave up on in the 90s. Since then, it's been compilations and re-releases (which are absolutely amazing, in terms of bonus content!).

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  13. So... about that single... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenMcNuggets View Post
    MJ releases/projects aren't really exciting 'events' any more when (a) they come about so often and (b) they're cheesy, lowest-common-denominator 'trendy' remix projects, naff dance games, circus tours, TV appearances of crap holograms etc.
    So sad how true this is. Honestly Michael is my favorite and new music being released should be the most exciting thing in the world, even if there are a few flaws. However, the fact that the current show runners even manage to ruin what should be a simple straightforward project is a shame. Oh well, I suppose I will just have more time to continually appreciate what Michael left us in 2004 and beforehand which is where the real magic lies anyways.

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